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No you are not entitled to sex because you paid. Don't be a douche
@happysunshine52 its not that hard to figure out. Women don't owe you something because you chose to pay
So very true!!
Nothing entitles you to sex any time
Absolutely NOT... It just shows that you were raised right by a wonderful mama... Anyone who EXPECTS sex is just being a DICK...
NO ... a man paying does not mean he's getting a piece, nor does a woman paying mean she's getting a piece, nor does going dutch ...
One of the huge problems in our world is people have this concept of "entitlement", whether is sex or otherwise ... NO, you really aren't THAT special ...
Have a nice day ...
Entitlement ... one of the biggest 'turn-offs' on the planet
Nothing "entitles" you to sex on the first date, or any date. Sex requires mutual desire and consent. You can't make someone feel obligated to have sex with you just because you spent some money on them. And if you do think you're trading money for sex, you should probably think about the equity of that trade. Even average sex is worth a hell of a lot more than the price of one meal or a couple of drinks. A woman can get a decent meal any time; sex is a much harder to come by for most men.
Being an old-fashioned gentleman, I still believe that it would be up to the me to pick up the check. No expectation of having sex after the first date nor the hundredth one.
Of course that is me being me. Maybe that is why I am still a virgin?
I had to race through your post due to a time constraint. However, splitting is the way of the 21st century. If a modern woman expects to not pay, she should consider modernizing as they expect men to modernize. Personally, I believe if a woman expects the man to pay then she could be a high maintenance person I’d rather not be associated with
To me, there is no 'who pays dilemma,' whether it's the first date or the nth time. In my opinion, 'he' should always pay! and "no extra" is guaranteed, though most times it is.
For me its simple. He asks, he pays. I ask, I pay. If we end up naked, its totally unrelated to who paid. I'm told old for games and awkwardness. If there's an elephant in the room, I have a mouth, I address it!
No, NOTHING entitles you to sex, at any time under any circumstances. Period. End. Of. Discussion.
This is so obviously a "no". I would never even want a woman to think that, it would ruin the fun!
Nope
Sex and dinner are usual separate activities, unless your partner has agreed to an alternative menu, and continues to consent, as you move from entree, to main course, to dessert.
Hell no, but might get you a second date
Man shaming article from AFF. Thanks for the nonsense! I wouldnt say it entitles you to sex but as a 40+ man you best believe by about date 3 or 4 if she doesnt put out thats it. No more born again virgins.
Common sense answer: No. Nothing, except maybe legal prostitution, "entitles" someone to sex after paying for something.
I think an interesting follow-up question is:
"Who pays for the first date and what variables determine which person does?"
Such as:
a) Were you asked out, or did you do the asking.
b ) If your date is being disrespectful (to you, other people, etc.), or clearly not paying attention (always head down in their phone, barely adding to conversation).
c) If your date indicates they expect you to pay before the date starts or at the beginning.
d) If your date's order is 70%+ of a $100+ bill.
e) If you asked them out, but they limit where they are willing to go are all commonly known expensive locations (michelin star restaurants, high end bars, etc.).
f) If they clearly showed no preparation for it (hang out sweats, bed head, etc.).
It might with me
No, short answer
Nope. Gotta play the long game
Healthy approach to paying